Scriptural Evidence The Son is not Co-Eternal with His Father

Besides looking at this properly, one of the hardest issues in relation to it is what an individual’s definition of eternity is. When did eternity begin or did it begin at all. If there is a beginning of eternity what exactly is that for an individual. From the perspective of the Bible one can only take that God is eternal in the sense that he has always been here before anything else was created or made. So in effect eternity begins before he creates anything. The issue is, what was the thing that he first created. This is where we find ourselves with the Bible and what it says about Christ.

One of the major issues that we as people need to deal with is that at some point God was alone being an eternal and immortal being. We know God is immortal because the Bible tells us so in very strong words from Paul, the following verses also tell us quite specifically that we have created all kinds of ideas and images to worship yet none of them are correct because throughout the Bible he has laid down how we should see things by looking at his own creation:

Romans 1:18-25 NJB

18. The retribution of God from heaven is being revealed against the ungodliness and injustice of human beings who in their injustice hold back the truth.

19. For what can be known about God is perfectly plain to them, since God has made it plain to them:

20. ever since the creation of the world, the invisible existence of God and his everlasting power have been clearly seen by the mind's understanding of created things. And so these people have no excuse:

21. they knew God and yet they did not honour him as God or give thanks to him, but their arguments became futile and their uncomprehending minds were darkened.

22. While they claimed to be wise, in fact they were growing so stupid

23. that they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for an imitation, for the image of a mortal human being, or of birds, or animals, or crawling things.

24. That is why God abandoned them in their inmost cravings to filthy practices of dishonouring their own bodies-

25. because they exchanged God's truth for a lie and have worshipped and served the creature instead of the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

These verse make is extremely clear, especially verse 19 and 20, the God has made himself known plainly simply by our minds understanding of the created world he made and how it works, yet for some reason a philosophical mystery needs to be fabricated because they refuse to understand the nature of God and Christ Jesus from the natural Order of creation that is seen. The following scripture that indicates that Yahweh God himself is Immortal:

1 Timothy 6:13-16 NJB

13. Now, before God, the source of all life, and before Jesus Christ, who witnessed to his noble profession of faith before Pontius Pilate, I charge you

14. to do all that you have been told, with no faults or failures, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,

15. who at the due time will be revealed by God, the blessed and only Ruler of all, the King of kings and the Lord of lords,

16. who alone is immortal, whose home is in inaccessible light, whom no human being has seen or is able to see: to him be honour and everlasting power. Amen.

This may seem unusual to you, but it is what nearly every Christian denomination does when it accepts the doctrine of the Trinity. It proclaims Christ Jesus God and worships him in the way that only God should be worshipped. The English language is bad in its response but the Bias in translation because of the greek philosophical doctrine makes it worse, because when the translators translate the Greek into English, they add the Trinitarian bias to what the verses are saying. Take for example the concept of Worship. The word “Worship” in English has 2 types of worship mentioned in the Bible. One of them, the main one and the ONLY one attributed to Christ Jesus is the Greek word “proskuneo” which while translated often as “Worship” should more correctly be translated as “prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence)” much as we would do to a King or Queen or somebody of high rank or an official. The second Greek word translated into English which is ONLY given to God and mentioned by Christ Jesus himself is “latreuo” which literally means “render, religious homage: –serve, do the service, worship”. Jesus mentions and uses both Greek terms in the worship of God in the following verse:

Matthew 4:10 NJB 

10. Then Jesus replied, “Away with you, Satan! For scripture says: The Lord your God is the one to whom you must do homage (proskuneo), him alone you must serve (latreuo).”

You can read more about this in our Bible Study titled:  “Worship” - The Different Biblical Types

Additionally, as mentioned earlier, the term “Begotten” must have been used in the Bible during the time of the creation of the Nicaean Creed. We know this because both contending sides used the term, and both sides understood it differently and in fact Athanasius has included in the Creed the following comment:

“begotten not made . . . Those who say: ‘There was a time when He was not, and He was not before He was begotten”

We have already seen what the word begotten means and that you can’t change its meaning by stating that something “is but is not” as the first part of the above quote of the Creed tries to do. Begotten means what it means and Arius in effect was probably more scripturally accurate then Athanasius, in that Christ was created out of nothing and the first creation of God. We can see this idea being born out in the following scriptures:

Colossians 1:15-17 NJB

15. He is the image of the unseen God, the first-born of all creation,

16. for in him were created all things in heaven and on earth: everything visible and everything invisible, thrones, ruling forces, sovereignties, powers, all things were created through him and for him.

17. He exists before all things and in him all things hold together,

In verse 15 you can see that it does not say that Christ Jesus is Yahweh God, it says that he is the image of the UNSEEN GOD, that God is Yahweh God. Another interesting point to take note of in verse 15 is this: “the first-born of all creation“, It is interesting to note that the verse refers to Christ Jesus as the first-born of all creation, as Christ wasn’t the first born on earth, then it must mean that he was a creation, and the first creation of Yahweh God and infact the first thing that Yahweh God created that was actually born on the Earth. If Christ Jesus was co-eternal with God the Father, then why does this verse not read something along the lines of “first-born of all eternity”? That would make much more sense if the doctrine of the Trinity creed was accurate about Christ’s co-eternal nature. Another interesting Biblical scripture is the one below, indicating scriptural evidence for Arius understanding of scripture over that of the philosophical beliefs of Athanasius.

Revelation 3:14 RSV

14. "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: 'The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.

We know that this verse is referring to Christ Jesus, as we know that Jesus is the Amen, the faithful and true witness. This verse clearly states from the Bible that Christ Jesus could not have been co-eternal with Yahweh God the Father, because he was in fact the “Beginning of God’s creation”. To be the Beginning of God’s creation, he had to be the very first thing that God created and therefore had a beginning. Scripture once again proves that the doctrine of the Trinity is nothing more than Greek Philosophical beliefs with no scriptural evidence to support it. How do we know that he was created before everything else that was made, simple, everything that has ever been made has been made through Christ (Him) for Christ (Him) as per Colossians 1:16. Many may deny this truth, but then the Truth is always hard to accept for people that stopsearching for it.

We shall now cover briefly the Scriptural evidence and information about the Holy Spirit. The information regarding the Holy Spirit is fairly self-explanatory in relation to whether it is a “person” or not.

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